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Can't say I really have the experience to make a fully informed decision, but ib general terms I would definitely put Innokin up there if for nithing else the value for money on their mods. Good quality and reliability, generally speaking and a good price. Also not straight copies as you say. After that I don't really have a preference.

Personally though I am moving towards the less "mass" produced items, as you put it, and away from clones generally speaking. Personal experiences of clones has done that for me. Not bagging clones at all though. I am doing this for the higher build quality, generally speaking - and for that matter hopefully as it is not always the case - and a more individual styling on the finish. I acceptthat a tube mech is a tube mech. It looks the same no matter what, but aesthetic finishing and materials can give it a more pleasing look to my eye.

Only gone this way by looking around and researching. I have my first Mech on the way now, from JD Tech, and I hope my theories are proved to be correct, as this will increase the pleasure I get from vaping.

 

I always thought Joyetech was the number 1 ecig maker (in terms of volume/size/sales). I do believe Innokin and Kanger have very high quality. I think Kanger makes better ego style tanks and batteries better than Joyetech themselves (I really don't care for Joyetech anymore).

I think Provari has got some major pull. To this day, the high end shops have them (and I guess to be a high end shop you have to carry them). It's like Kia or Timex selling lots of cheaper things vs Bently or Rolex selling fewer things for more money. Provari has a very good reputation for quality, and a cult like following. I probably would have bought one had I not gone full mechanical.

And I get what everyone is saying about going high end. When you first start off, you buy the cheap stuff because you really don't know if you will stick with it or go back to actual tobacco. But once you realize you like it, and what's good and what's bad you start developing a taste for the finer things. When you try a good wine or beer, you don't want to go back to the cheap stuff. When you try an actual high end mod (and JD tech is really good BTW) you don't want to go back to a clone (even though clone is good quality). The actual is even better in terms of threading and attentiont o detail.

 

^ Dated? Yes. But so is Bentley, Morgan, Harley Davidson, Saville Row/Brooks Brothers (for us stateside), Rolex/Omega/Blancpain and Mont Blanc (I mean really spend that much on a pen, when you could get a cheap ballpoint. , What I think trumps technologicial edge is customer loyalty and reputation for excellence. Most new vapers don't know about a DNA 20 or DNA 30. But they heard about Provari. People who buy high end usually listen to what their friends/family/salesman says. Everyone does say Provari is good high end (which it is). It's like my CBR1000RR which has a 4 cylinder watercooled inline 4 cylinder with 158 hp compared to a Harley Davidson. Harley Davidson (even the new ones) are very low tech. People who want a Harley will buy a Harley technology be damned.

 

I will say (and I know everyone will say) that even the low to mid range Chinese stuff is nonetheless still good quality. But then again, why would you buy Guiness beer, when you could a Chang or a Singha? Why spend the money for a lobster, when you can go to McDonald's and have a filet o'fish? Even those people who are die hard clone users, when given the real stuff will acknowledge that the little things like threading and engraving (and feel) are just a little bit better on the higher end stuff. YMMV.

 

I would say the market leader is probably whoever makes Njoy, since they sell them in every convenience store I've seen in the States. Horrible product by all accounts.

Since there is still so much room for improvement in the industry, I would have to say the true leaders are those who are thinking outside the box. Evolv has the electronics and the UI down, Svoemesto came up with the Kayfun and has some great ideas for the Semovar, hopefully they'll put a DNA in it instead of that Nivel chip. House of Hybrids has great products and I like their idea of the Z2 spec or whatever it's called. I'd like to see it actually adopted, since the 510 isn't really an ideal mechanical connection.

Innokin, Kanger, Ovale, I haven't seen anything innovative from them. Products are good but they don't seem to be willing to take any risks, which is a shame. With the amount of product they put out, they could be making all kinds of better performing designs, using microcoils and ceramic wicks, for a tiny increase in cost. I had a huge "oh damn" moment the first time I tried a microcoil--who even uses regular coils anymore.

 

Yeah forgot about Njoy, and Blue (disposable), and the buyout by Lorillard Inc. of Skycigs for 30million pounds. I think the big boys like Joyetech and whatever will fight out a bloody battle for the low end. I think high enders like Provari and Svoemesto are where to be. And I really can't say Svoemesto is that innovative (sorry). Kayfun is brilliant and best atomizer tank I have every used--BUT having had the Golden Greek Odysseus (which came out first), I know they did "borrow" a bit of design from that (chimney designed/low pressure draw of fluid), though they did improve the coiling design so that it is really ridiculously to build. I think they're aiming to be a European Provari, and mah just do it if they can get the teething problems out of the Semovar. (Apparently some glitches in the computer chip, and they really do not yet have a strong enough dealer network which Provari has).

I agree. Just because I bought higher end kit, didn't mean I threw out my cheaper mechs. But you got to admit: everyone buys mroe kit. I know when the Kayfun design popped out I had to have it. Did my other tanks/drippers work fine? Yeah. But the Kayfun works better.

No one wants to drop a couple hundred on one mod when they start out. But then you start accumulating so many clones and copy tanks/garbage tanks that you realize instead of buying a whole bunch of cheaper stuff, you could have bought one or two genuine high end things, and they might actually work better. I really don't think you're gonna stop at the Smok mechanical. You're going to move up eventually.

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^^ microcoil took me some time to get into using. I was used to the "old school" philosophy of wrapping where you are NOT supposed to have any wires touch. Witht the microcoil I was like "what? Really you want me touch all the coils together? Doesn't that go against everything I learned I was supposed to do?"

 

That was the beauty of the Chinese mid range products for me. I wasn't sure about vaping when I started, as I am sure no one really is, and didn't want to spend a fortune if I wasn't going to stick with it. There will definately be a market for these products, and rightly so. Whether it be for people starting out or on a low income or just don't see the point in spending as much as tghey did on smoking, they will always be bought and sold in large quantities. n improvement in durability and quality control would be nice but they will always have a large share of the market.

 

My first kit was an ego ç starter kit and whilst the batteries are good the soft plastic tanks they supply are totally embarrassing. Not being a vaper I didn't know any better.

I'm extremely thankful to whoever it was that suggested Innokin to me. Chalk and cheese in my mind.

 

The Ego tanks are the worst horrible tanks that you can possibly buy. When I first started vaping, I went back to smoking for a bit because of how bad those Ego tanks are. Produce lousy vapor. Leak. Fall apart. Pour juice in your mouth. I pity anyone who doesn't know and buys these things because there's a good chance they'll go back to smoking if they don't realize there is way better stuff than that.