Race to Deliver Nicotine’s Punch, With Less Risk

New York Times

The rush by Philip Morris and other tobacco companies to develop new ways of selling nicotine is occurring as more consumers are trying e-cigarettes, devices that heat a nicotine-containing fluid to create a vapor that users inhale. While only a small percentage of smokers have switched to the devices — experts say early e-cigarettes did not deliver enough nicotine to satisfy a smoker’s cravings — major tobacco companies are deploying their financial resources and knowledge in a bid to dominate a potentially huge market for cigarette alternatives.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/25/business/race-to-deliver-nicotines-punch-with-less-risk.html?_r=1

 

What a BS.... sorry but that was my first thought reading the extract you posted.

 

And if they do, so help us God.

 

6 mg didn't work for me, but 12 mg sure did!

I could have gone to 18 mg or higher and I didn't, so it sure is enough!

What the .... are the talking about?

 

Big tobacco lost the race before it began...they are responsible for killing 400,000 of their best customers every year and the majority of vapers despise them...they will never even get into a double digit share of the market, especially considering their devices suck, and not in a good way.

 

They are talking about this:
The first study, conducted in 2013 in Poland, showed that levels of some of the most toxic contaminants in tobacco smoke were substantially lower in users of the iQOS heat-not-burn device than in smokers, though they were somewhat higher than in those who abstained. That study, however, lasted only five days. Scientists have not yet published results from a second study, which involved 160 people and lasted three months, company officials said. A third study, which is expected to last six to 12 months, has yet to begin, they said.

Lucky i started vaping before big tobacco is figuring out how they can successfully get into the Vaping game because for sure the nicotine addiction from cigarettes is by far not the only component which keeps smokers hooked on cigarettes.

Along with replicating important sensory aspects of smoking, like taste, the biggest hurdle for the new devices, experts say, is delivering nicotine with the efficiency of a cigarette. Within seconds of taking a drag, a smoker feels the nicotine’s soothing effects because compounds that are produced when tobacco burns are perfectly sized to carry nicotine deep into the lungs allowing the drug to quickly reach the brain. Those same compounds, which are collectively known as tars, also cause cancer and other diseases.

In the past, smoking replacement products like gums and patches have generally failed because they released nicotine too slowly or in amounts too low to satisfy smokers. And on one point, both cigarette industry executives and their critics appear to agree. If the newest alternative products are to succeed from both a financial and a public health standpoint, they will have to deliver nicotine at levels comparable to a cigarette

 

I just hope you are right Talen.

 

Give a smoker a properly coiled and wicked RDA with a 18mg juice and let him Vape. What will happen is he will cough like no tomorrow and is buzzed for a while

Just lowerd the nic to 6mg because 12 mg on a proper dripper with a decent power source just buzzed me to much

 

I do find it curious that they claim E-cigs can not deliver the nic at levels that will satisfy. Obviously that's not the case. Perhaps it is when trying to package it in a product that more closely mimics an analog...don't know. Also...the article says "experts say early e-cigarettes did not deliver enough nicotine to satisfy a smoker’s cravings."

The thing that's very telling in this piece is the tobacco industry recognizes traditional cigs are ultimately doomed and they are looking for ways to hold onto their market. I would not underestimate the power of an $800 billion a year industry. They have plenty of cash to toss at this and they most certainly do not intend to take a back seat. In my mind, the real question is what crumbs will be left for the rest???

 

And you could also say big tobacco is unscrupulous. And I could fear, that the normal consumer is stupid enough to buy there products. I just hope that the devices I'm now being used to still will be around. I don't see that the devices most of us are using are similar to cigarettes, pipes maybe, but cigarettes, no I don't think so.

 

While I have some issues with the Chinese, it is they who will, I think, ultimately present the greatest challenge to the tobacco industry. It is my belief that we who live outside the US, and perhaps Europe, will be fine...thanks to the 600 pound gorilla called the Chinese. That said, I'm not overly optimistic about how things will evolve in "developed" countries.

 

There isn't anything to worry about when it comes to vaping...the devices themselves are just battery tubes and regulated batteries....everything we use today to vape we can literally assemble ourselves with a modicum of effort...the geni is out of the bottle and there ain't no way his fat ass is going back in.

 

Would that be the same geni as the Macintosh computer?