ProVari Clones

They have a Clone for the ProVari 2.5...but that was I guess not a big success...

If you want a ProVari you will just pay for the real deal and never think of buying a clone...the price of the clone is the same as most original mods...so why would you consider to buy one?

 

I have no idea and refuse to get into an argument about how behind the curve they are

 

That is totally true! They never had problems with their mods like other big brands on the market...that is how far behind the curve they are... Still vaping on a maximum of 5 Volts / 11.5 Watts and loving it!

 

The deal with Provari is that it is an American company...that can afford lawyers to protect its trademark. Note that on fasttech, certain items are not branded with logos, and the name of the original manufacturer is not used. For example, the Paps clone. $15.38 *SALE* PA-PS Style 18650 Mechanical Mod - brass tube at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

No logos on mod. The paps name is not listed on the fasttech site. Notice that most of the clones out there are of smaller companies, like the Filipinos (Grand Vapor) or the Greeks (Atmomixani--maker of the nemesis). These companies don't have the resources to trademark their logos and go after the cloners. Provari would have the resources to go after cloners. Notice that there are Rolex fakes around (that you can buy under the table), but Fasttech and other big, legitimate places do not sell them? It's because Rolex really protects its trademarks. Actual example: my friend once tried listing a fake Rolex on Ebay. The listing was removed. He was then contacted by Rolex's U.S. Law firm which demanded he pay $1200 for violating their trademarks. He ignored it, and they didn't go after him for the money, but the message is clear. Even in Thailand, people selling Rolexes have them seized.

It's all a matter of how much money and effort you are able to put into protecting your intellectual property. Provari will protect their trademarks.

 

I read somewhere someone had said the lawyers go after the smaller companies that sell the clones.

If you just make clones then you are protected by the (lack of) Chinese IP law. If you sell to America you've suddenly opened yourself up to liability.

May also be due to America protecting this stuff more than the other countries (Greece etc) but I'm not really sure at all.

 

mhmm the success of the ProVari was its reliabitly not its functions or fancy look, and the chinense quality and the reliabillity are two words which dont really fit in one sentence ...

Oddly enough i have to admit that lots of my cheap shit cloneish stuff just works great, but the chinese brands like Vamo / Kanger sucks balls, My Vamo V5 was good for 2 monhts, the replacement for this after warranty was good for another month, and then after 3 months total FT denied warranty for another the 2nd not working Vamo in short time. Similar experiences with the SVD

My Clouporish Hanamods clones kinda work flawless thou,

 

^^Oil, your experience with the Vamo was better than mine. The V3 Vamo I ordered, worked for less than 6 hours before it failed. I think the Chinese are getting better at it. The Cloupor mini is working flawlessly, and is so well designed.

And as to China, there is that lawsuit that was posted on another thread about Hana modz prevailing in court over a shop that was selling the clones. It would be much harder for Hana Modz to go sue the manufacturer in china for making it. They'd have to hire chinese lawyers, and litigate in China, and China's IP laws aren't real great.

However, the brick and morter shop which received the clones from China then sold the clones in San Diego is a much much easier target.

 

well i gotta admit i am not a friend of IP laws cause i believe its once of the reasons the world we are living is going south, due to unlimited greed of ruthless companies and that they have more rights then actual humans.

Anyhow ... its not a fair play game that the chinese companies copy the branding and selling / or martkeing as this brand, thats riding on the bandwagon of their success which is wrong imho.

But copying things is perfectly okay imho

 

I agree with you, Oil. Alot of the big companies are abusing IP laws to prevent competition. And I also agree that copying the design/looks is not immoral or illegal. When you stamp another companies name on it, it is.

This is a pic I pulled off the internet comparing a genuine Rolex submariner to an invicta copy.

To make or sell a watch that looks identical to the Rolex is not illegal. When you stamp the name "Rolex" on it, it becomes illegal.