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If you got diagnosed with Cancer, would you still continue to vape?

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  1. Submaniac
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    The cancer is not at all related to smoking or vaping or nicotine. It is a rare unusual cancer that seems just to randomly affect people. If you were diagnosed, would you quit vaping or would you stop completely?
     
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    There are certain types of cancer that nicotine aggravates (unrelated to smoking) so I suppose I would cut the nicotine out, but I don't see myself ever stopping vaping.
     
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    nope, i would rather enjoy the time i have left then try to extend my time by taking away the things that bring me pleasure

    bottom line, quality not quantity
     
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    The cancer in question is Thymoma, which is where your thymus cells which produce T lymphocites are supposed to turn into fat after puberty. It is extremely rare, and unlikely to be cause or related to or by smoking or vaping. The tumor is at a stage 1 (early detection). At stage one, the tumor cells look like ordinary cells found in the thymus. If not caught early (in this case was caught very early) the procedure is simply to remove the tumor. If you look up thymoma, no one really knows what causes it. It happens to people who don't smoke, and happens to people who do. It appears that it is not one of these cancers related to smoking and nicotine.

    However, I have been under pressure from friends relatives to give up vaping completely. The concern is not medically based so much as it is "stop vaping to avoid cosmic repurcussions since your still vaping after you got diagnosed with cancer). Personally I don't see how vaping relates to it at all, and was wondering if most people--if diagnosed with cancer, would quit vaping even though there is no link between vaping and the cancer.
     
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    In that situation I would try to do what suits my needs/wants best not what other people thought I should do. Not a big fan of shoulds

    Also they very warmest good luck & best wishes Sub.
     
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    Do you also have Myasthenia Gravis? Google's infinite wisdom tells me 50% of people diagnosed with Thymoma have it, and it is an acquired autoimmune response to nicotine receptors. Whether or not that actually has anything to do with nicotine intake, or nicotine is helpful or harmful, I have no idea. What I would probably do, since there are a lot of unknowns here and it is at least partially related to nicotine, is drop down to zero nic for a little while and see how I felt. If I felt worse, back no nicotine. If I felt better, keep off the nicotine. Either way I wouldn't stop vaping.

    That said, I am not a doctor, nor do I believe half the shit they say. I would not trust a doctor's recommendation unless I can corroborate their diagnosis. I definitely would ignore everyone else, since you know as well as I do the average person knows jack shit about vaping. Do your own research, read some papers and studies, make your own decision.
     
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    No, cause


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    basially there are too much docs which proof how (dont wanna say easy) not hard it is to cure cancer, the only important rule at this diagnosis is not to undergo chemo / radiology treatment which is proofen to massively accellerate tumor growth

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    i am not a doctor as well, but my whole family is stuffed with them, and i see a clear picture that they treat their kids vastly different from what they recommend to all others.

    Their own Kids would get Hoemoepathics while a Kid as a patient would get some Antibiotics for the very same dissease.

    my wifey harrases me to eat now, i ll write later more

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    if you have some friends which speak understand German, this is a eye opening explanation
    on the whole cancer topic

    i couldnt find any information which wasnt in English language thou



    the website which explains a lot
    Die Neue Medizin

    Downloadable PDF Books from Dr. Hamer
    Neuschwabenland-Archiv
    some of them are in english language

    Dowloadable Videos from / with Dr. Hamer
    Neuschwabenland-Archiv

    However, when you dont have the option with German language go for Dr. Max Gerson, as seen in the 1st two videos above.
    Most cruical imho, is to stay away from schoolmedicine treatment type like Chemo, Operation, Radiology - by now it is already so much prooven that the death rate of anybody which had any of the 3 treatments within a 5 years time frame is over 95% - they wont tell you that.

    Plenty of Material to Research for yourself can be also found on those websites:
    Natural health news
    Health

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    i ll spam a few more links in a bit, but must digg them out in some emails first

    Government Study: THC From Cannabis Kills Cancer Cells
    Government Study: THC From Cannabis Kills Cancer Cells

    The Gerson Therapy for Cancer Explained
    The Gerson Therapy for Cancer Explained - YouTube

    The Beautiful Truth (Video – Full Documentary – The Many Reasons For Chronic Diseases And The Cure)
    The Beautiful Truth (Video The Many Reasons For Chronic Diseases And The Cure)

    The Gerson Miracle (Video – Full Documentary On A Cure – Not Only For Cancer – That Works!)
    The Beautiful Truth (Video The Many Reasons For Chronic Diseases And The Cure)

    ‘Dying To Have Known’ (Video – Full Documentary On A Cure – Not Only For Cancer – That Works!)
    That Works!)

    Woman Stuns Researchers By Overcoming Cancer With Turmeric Spice
    Woman Stuns Researchers By Overcoming Cancer With Turmeric Spice

    if you wanna get proper treatment
    Gerson Health Centre : Gerson Institute
    they have a 95% success rate on cancer on untreated people, and a 50% success rate on people which did had chemo and others already.

    However doing the Gerson Therapy is a heck of a lot of work, and its so strict that you might prefer to rather die then to pull this thru.
    There are plenty of good books on amazon thou:
    The Gerson Therapy: The Proven Nutritional Program for Cancer and Other Illnesses: Charlotte Gerson, Morton Walker: 9781575666280: Amazon.com: Books
    Healing the Gerson Way: Defeating Cancer and Other Chronic Diseases: Charlotte Gerson, Beata Bishop, Joanne Shwed, Abram Hoffer: 9780976018629: Amazon.com: Books
    Amazon.com: A Cancer Therapy: Results of Fifty Cases and the Cure of Advanced Cancer by Diet Therapy (9780961152628): Max Gerson: Books

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    hope that gets you started, if you have some further questions feel free to ask, however all the hard decissions you must take yourself.

    in case you decide to undergo alternative treatment and stay away from schoolmedicine chemo and similar, shoot me a message i will sent
    you a PDF of mindblowing book from Martha Christy this will open your eyes and you will realize how easy it is to cure cancer if you are able to overcome certain obstacles, however i am not willing to post that public, so i ll skip on that for now.
     
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    Thanks for the info Oil, it's interesting stuff.

    As for the Myesthenia Gravis, that is what I am more concerned with. The tumor operation is being handled at Stanford University hospital (because I want a good hospital to take care of it), so I am comfortable in their ability. The myesthenia gravis, I'm just gonna have to play by ear and see what happens because it is still early in the game.
     

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