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Discussion in 'The Thailand Vaping Newbies' started by winwin, Aug 5, 2016.

  1. winwin

    winwin Thread Starter Birder on the run

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    My first 2 setups, including 2 TC mods, 2 RTA atomizers and some other acess, are yet to be arrvied. I declare myself completely green at vaping.

    I read many articles saying that DNA is the best so far, but the price gap between DNA and other chips is not minor.

    Is DNA mod really worth to consider being an ordinary vaper ?
     
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    Which DNA chip are you getting?


    Sent from my P3 Ti...
     
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    winwin Thread Starter Birder on the run

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    No, the 2 sets are not DNA. They are Eleaf Pico & SMY TC 75w. I just curious why DNAs are so much more expensive.
     
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    It all depends which thread / article you read.

    That's me done with DNA 200's | Thailand Vapers
     
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    Evolv DNA chips have always been top class and accurate. But since TC started they are one of the best available. DNA, yihi and dicodes chips are considered the gold standard in TC vaping atm and many think it is debatable which is the best. Also, and I admit to having a brain freeze on this for some reason, I believe Evolve is made in USA so upping the production costs. But as I say I have gone a bit blank on that one so someone please correct me if I am wrong and apologies in advance for any errors.
     
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    Siam Diesel Nauti Moderator Staff Member

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    Sorry, misread your post. For temp control & power mode vaping, the DNA chips are excellent as are the Yihi SX 350J-V2 chips and the Dicodes chip. They're at the top of the list...and the price of the mods reflect this. Most are very difficult to get here although you can find a Yihi ML (and maybe, M) Class mod at local suppliers. I have mods with each type of chip...only use them in power mode (can't be arsed to mess around with TC) and love them all.

    You cannot go wrong with any of them...if you're going to stick with vaping (over smoking), it's worth getting better mods for the long haul IMO.

    And...don't forget the ProVape products...P3, Radius & Procyon...also excellent mods and ProVape has just introduced a software update for the Radius that does 'coil control' (their version of TC).

    Are you a mouth-to-lung (MTL) or direct-lung (DL) vaper??
     
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    winwin Thread Starter Birder on the run

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    It might be a sample variance, but as a biginner, I would stay with some "cheaper" mods.
    **Updated**
    MTL, I guess. But, frankly don't know the difference being a yet.to.be first time vaper.
     
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    Because it has been declared holy by the pope in Rome.

    Serious now, by the time the DNA chips came out they where one of the best. Also the customisation options offered and much much better warranty (at least in the US) increase the price.

    But that is some time back and things have changed. The mass market devices have caught up a lot. Your Pico is according to PBusardo graphs spot on accurate, or at least as accurate as need to provide a good vape.

     
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    winwin Thread Starter Birder on the run

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    I read that plus other reviews re Eleaf Pico before purchase. Guess it is a good mod.
     
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    Yep looking at the graphs I wonder what accuracy is really needed. These graphs look pretty good.

    Having said that, last week I did order a DNA75 to try personalising the settings even more. But actually Pico, Evic Mini and Co. work well.
     
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    The difference in vape quality is not reflected by the difference in price, particularly in VW/VV mode.
    However, in TC, and over the course of a week with the same wick/atomizer, my 350Jv2 does feel more consistent than the Pico and requires less 'maintenance'.
     
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    The biggest advantages to the Evolv DNA Chip, the Yihi SX 350J-V2 and the Dicodes chips are accuracy and consistency. For your average day to day vaper the latest devices are closer to accurate than they used to be but still not in the same class as the above mentioned chips. I'm sure some disagree, but this is my opinion. Temp control on other chip-sets has been inconsistent at best even with the latest firmware upgrades. Nickel, and Titanium are pretty easy to TC but there is still a lot of variance of "perceived temperature" among these devices. SS is much harder to TC even when you know the exact alloy you are dealing with and this is where I see the most variances among these devices. Again, all of this is just my opinion. YMMV.
     
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    although I have not used TC for a few months now I have to agree with @Lotta . It doesn't just come down to accuracy for me it also comes down to HOW the power is regulated to adjust the temperature.

    Now I haven't tried the new yihi chips or the dicodes but for mr the increase and reduction in power applied by the DNA chips is much smoother giving me a much better vape experience. Truthfully I would still be using SS TC my preferred wire for it, but getting the right CSV OR TCR Is difficult due to the alloy differences in supplied wire. 316l is not the same from all suppliers.
     
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    Agree with the comments about power delivery in regulating the temp of the vape. Some chipsets such as the Yihi 350j, depending on settings and possibly also wire types, can sometimes "rattlesnake" a fair bit but other times only very slightly and often not noticeably so. Otherwise it's very good and consistent in temp setting vs resulting vape.

    I don't have a Dicodes chipset mod but do have several others in mods by Boxer, Eleaf/Wismec/Joyetech, Laisimo, P4U, Sigelei, Hcigar and a couple others. The DNA mods are easily the smoothest and best performing of the bunch. The Laisimo L3 is really quite good (don't know the chipset) but struggles with SS316L some requiring a good amount of tweaks to either the resistance value or TCR value or both when running SS316L coils. Runs great with Ti1 which is my go to and my preferred wire. No rattlesnaking. The Eleaf/Wismec/Joyetech mods I have all seem to require compensations in either the temp setting or TCR values to get me to the vape I like. Otherwise, they are pretty good with TC and priced nicely.

    Worst TC mod I ever had was the SMOK XCube II. Tried a friends newer model HPriv and it's almost as bad with TC. The SMOK chipsets in these mods have a sort of wave-like pattern of regulating temp and it can be terrible, IMO. They work very nicely in VV/VW mode, especially the HPriv so the popular reviewers who praise them probably aren't TC vapers to begin with and don't put them through their paces with TC.

    Some other bad TC mods out there that I have no experience with such as the Sigelei 213 and Fuchai 200W. Supposed to be great with VV/VW but are among the very worst for TC vaping. The 213 I know was shown to continually increase temp with each press of the fire button and ends up burning wicking. I think the Fuchai is the same. Ridiculous and they have no firmware upgrades to resolve it.
     
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    I have a DNA75 device and love it…I bought it mainly for accuracy as I don't do temp control….and it has proved to be very reliable….there are devices that cost less than 50 bucks now…which is less than the retail price of the chip.
     

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