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Discussion in 'Thailand DIY Juice Making' started by -V-, Aug 19, 2017.

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    -V- Thread Starter Administrator Staff Member

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    The other week I ran out of flavouring
    So I had a thought, get a 10ml bottle of juice and use that to cut with PG/VG

    Went to the local Pound Land shop and bought 3 bottles of the below:
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    Added the 3 bottles into an empty 100 ml bottle, then added 60 ml of PG/VG at the mix ratio I wanted which gave me 90 ml of juice.
    As it was 16mg nic level juice, by doing the above it gave me just over 5mg nic level for the 90 ml of juice which is about right for me....so i didn't have to actually add any nic to the mix..

    The flavour is actually really nice..
     
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    After the last year regulation in Europe about the maximum nicotine tar in a booster and the "so sweet" 10 ml bottles limitation,
    The shop in France try to sell "kit or pack" , as you done.
    teenagers love it because it's easy (everything in the pack) and cheaper,
    I think that in the next future, many European will do the same as you.
    (Company try also to sell "kit /pack" (according to the regulation) but without the concentrate flavor (that you have to buy separately)
    Pack to mix 6mg/ml - Solubarome )
     
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    Interesting how they are calculating the nic there on the sticker. 16mg is 1.6%? That should be 16%. On a 10ml bottle it would be 1.6ml of nic, not 1.6%.
     
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    Hmm, I've got a 10mg/ml bottle out of the US and it's labeled as 1.0% nic...16% nic would be a healthy hit! :)
     
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    16% of the volume is nic at 1.6ml of 100mg/ml in a 10ml bottle. At 1%, it would be 0.1ml nic with a strength of 1mg/ml.

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    It's correct. 1000mg is 100%

    *999.6mg or whatever it is.

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    If they were using pure nic, yes, it would be correct. That would be rather unusual though from a safety perspective. Not just for the mixer, but for the consumer as well. Not sure how big that producer is, but unless they are using electronic pipettes to mix every batch with super precise accuracy it would be very easy to over or under dose it.
     
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    I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say I suspect they don't mix each 10ml bottle individually.

    GLV said they reduce 100% (1000mg) to 10% (100mg), then produce gallons of the stuff.
     
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    I don't believe at all that they would be mixing 10ml bottles individually. However, even making large batches, this means a greater volume of nic, and even more accuracy needed to make sure they get it right.

    GLV sounds like they are doing it right.
     
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    My take...if 1000mg/ml is 100% (i.e., pure nic), then 100mg/ml is 10% & 10mg/ml is 1%. I think the box in the OP is labeled correctly. YMMV :D
    :vaping: :vaping:
     
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    Hah, Rick is correct if they are using pure nic to mix. You are correct as well, but in a different way. If I was trying to make 16mg/ml of juice and I was using a 1% base, I would need to add 16ml (160%) of nic base to a 10ml bottle. As you can imagine, this might be a bit difficult unless the bottle has a lot of extra head space.

    Edit: I'm dumb and misunderstood. Nothing to see here folks. Move along.
     
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    yes labeled correctly. nicotine density is nearly 1.01 g/cm cube and the Propylene glycol they add have a density of about 1.04
    Mixing nicotine with pure VG will be a little bit different.
     
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    This is what violent (dis?)agreement looks like on our TV...it's much different on the other TV.
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